> I wish MSTS (TMTS) will be able to fix this problem of the trees,
Well, don't count too much on that. Given the ton of new calculations TMTS will have to calculate just to move the train over the line (ultra realistic physics don't come free), I suspect there will be limitations in the eye candy realm as well.
> its a real bug to see alot of trees then start climbin a grade and look down into a valley (for example)
> and see no trees
For me, in MSTS I like seeing the vista's as opposed to running among rows of trees and only seeing trees. I like SOME trees in MSTS, but I don't want to exactly replicate nature as it is in the Ozarks. Doing so would mean you can't see the forest for the trees!
In the real world, when I'm out exploring the Ozarks for old roadbeds and other tidbits, I prefer to wait until the dead of winter (after all the foliage is off). That way I can see the vista's better, as well as any remains/evidences of roadbeds/whatever.
> Some neat lookin' shots there.
Thank 'yuh, thank 'yuh... thank 'yuh vury much.
> My, that coal dock and watertower does look a tad familiar.
> (Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .)
Yup. Indeed. Building an object library is not a situation that each route replaces the previous objects with all new ones. (Unless you radically shift era's as I did with the StLNA/A&O projects. That was THE reason it took me so much longer to get the A&O finished than I expected.)
Instead, you continue to add to it, reusing the previous objects as needed. Generally, I'm reusing the previous objects as back ground items, and building new items for up front.
However, the above may not be the case with railroad structures, which pretty much look the same from one regional railroad to the next. That is, a 60,000 gal cylindrical water tank is a 60,000 gal cylindrical water tank. Ditto a coaling platform, etc. About the only thing that radically changes is paint. Plus, "back then", it seems that oxide red was almost a defacto standard for MOW and physical plant structures, or at least it appears so in the collection of Ozark railroad photos I have.
> I like the mill, but I think the mills up in Maine would bury it in output.
FWIW: The distant mill scene in the above pic has already changed. I was studying some St. Paul pics and noted the mill scene was different than I depicted.
I have no facts/figures on board-feet of output for the many mills in the region. One history book does read thusly:
"In 1887 the McDanial Brothers mill shipped two-million dollars worth of white oak crossties over the line."
Bear in mind the McDanial Brothers mill in question was not the largest mill. Plus, it was only one among dozens of mills in the region. During the hey day (that I'm modeling), the prototype St. Paul Branch had several passenger trains per day, as well as freights running up and down the line all day/night.
Also, remember that we're talking about exhausting the timber along 35 miles (later extended to be 43 miles)of standard gauge railroad, as well as another 20 miles on another standard gauge railroad (that connected with the St. Paul Branch). Plus, this includes all the timber that can be harvested and teamed several miles trackside for hauling to, or to the mill for sawing. (i.e. all the hollows and reachable mountainsides.)
Such output was THE reason it was all over in 2-3 decades: They exhausted the profitable/reachable timber, and the towns were not economically diversified enough to survive the mills "cutting out".
Of course, during those days, there WAS other freight, just not as much as the timber products. In fact, it is recorded in one of my books that:
"Although the lumber mills were the major source of business for the F&LR (see Note 1 below) , they were by no means the only one. Irish Mulrenin (see Note 2 below) said he picked up 125 cars of apples at Elkins during one season (see Note 3 below), and at one time he spotted ten cars of local merchandise on the team track there."
Note 1: "Fayettevill & Little Rock". This was the original railroad that started construction of the St. Paul Branch. It was quickly purchased by the Frisco.
Note 2: At the time of the above history's compiliation, John "Irish" Mulrenin was a surviving eye witness to, and ex-railroad laborer on, the F&LR.
Note 3: About 4-6 weeks.
> I'll look-up some photos of the big mills up on the Sandy River for ya.
> They piled the logs higher than the boxcars and actually built "rollovers" to take the logs OVER the trains.
Sounds interesting! If you will, simply start a new thread with your pics and we'll all oogle them!